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Ramman
Is it true that he may not be a natural born citizen? A lawyer in New Jersey is saying that because the constitution did not specify exactly what natural born citizen is that to him it mean both parents born in the United States. Since 1 of Obama's parents wasn't, that means he is not a natural born citizens. Will the supreme court take rule on something like this? Should they?
Answer
D W1 - at a minimum, because of the volatility (i.e., constitutional issues raised), the Supreme Court has no choice but to address it.
Otherwise, a lot of people who are adversely affected by any bill signed into law by Obama (e.g., tax hikes) will challenge the constitutionality of the law because the signer (the "President") is constitutionally ineligible to be President, and therefore his signature, and the law, is void.
Apparently Obama's mother went to Kenya to visit her relatives (on her husband's side), and when she was ready to return she was so far along in the pregnancy she was not allowed to fly.
Because of this she had to remain in Kenya until Obama was born.
This is quite logical (in 1961 there were strong restrictions regarding flying while pregnant), especially since Obama's grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have stated this is what happened.
They have no reason to lie.
If Barack Hussein Obama II (âObamaâ) was not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya as stated by his grandmother, his half-brother and half-sister, he would be Constitutionally ineligible to be President because he is not a U.S. Citizen.
âAccording to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, [Obama] was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii⦠His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Bergâ¦â
See http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3324
Obamaâs mother (Ann Dunham Soetoro) was born in November 29, 1942.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
Obama was born August 4, 1961.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
According to Title III - Nationality and Naturalization; Chapter I - Nationality at Birth and by Collective Naturalization; Nationals and Citizens of the United States at Birth (Public Law 414; 66 Stat. 163, the âImmigration and Nationality Actâ of 1952)â¦
See http://bulk.resource.org/gao.gov/82-414/00002F05a.pdf
In part:
Sec. 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen; Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.
End part.
Therefore, if Obama was born in Kenya in order to be a U.S. citizen by birth, his mother would have had to been prior to Barackâs birth ââ¦physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteenâ¦â.
Since Obamaâs mother was born November 29, 1942, she would have been 14 on November 29, 1956, and adding the remaining 5 years to that (ââ¦at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteenâ¦â), this time period would have ended on November 29, 1961.
HOWEVER, Obama was born (apparently) on August 4, 1961, which was almost 4 months before the above deadline passed.
Under the U.S. Constitution (Article II, Section 1), it states that âNo person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of Presidentâ¦â.
Based on the above, Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be President of the United States if he was born in Kenya.
As pointed out by others, what has been posted is a "new" copy of Obamaâs âCertification of Live Birthâ printed from archived information taken from original documents, and NOT a âBirth Certificateâ or a âvaultâ copy of it.
Note - Hawaii apparently allowed a citizen of Hawaii to register the live birth of their baby whether or not it was born in Hawaii, another state, or outside the U.S.
If you look at the copy posted at http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html (which tries to prove the authenticity of the laser printed version), save a copy of the picture from the site ( see http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg ), open up the picture and enlarge it, you will see that the Certificate No. has a problem.
The separate picture entitled "Blowup of certificate number" on the factcheck.org site shows a certificate number "151 1961 - 010641.
If you look at the certificate number on the Certificate of Live Birth, the first three digits of the last six (supposedly "010641"), do not matc
D W1 - at a minimum, because of the volatility (i.e., constitutional issues raised), the Supreme Court has no choice but to address it.
Otherwise, a lot of people who are adversely affected by any bill signed into law by Obama (e.g., tax hikes) will challenge the constitutionality of the law because the signer (the "President") is constitutionally ineligible to be President, and therefore his signature, and the law, is void.
Apparently Obama's mother went to Kenya to visit her relatives (on her husband's side), and when she was ready to return she was so far along in the pregnancy she was not allowed to fly.
Because of this she had to remain in Kenya until Obama was born.
This is quite logical (in 1961 there were strong restrictions regarding flying while pregnant), especially since Obama's grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have stated this is what happened.
They have no reason to lie.
If Barack Hussein Obama II (âObamaâ) was not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya as stated by his grandmother, his half-brother and half-sister, he would be Constitutionally ineligible to be President because he is not a U.S. Citizen.
âAccording to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, [Obama] was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii⦠His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Bergâ¦â
See http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3324
Obamaâs mother (Ann Dunham Soetoro) was born in November 29, 1942.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
Obama was born August 4, 1961.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
According to Title III - Nationality and Naturalization; Chapter I - Nationality at Birth and by Collective Naturalization; Nationals and Citizens of the United States at Birth (Public Law 414; 66 Stat. 163, the âImmigration and Nationality Actâ of 1952)â¦
See http://bulk.resource.org/gao.gov/82-414/00002F05a.pdf
In part:
Sec. 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen; Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph.
End part.
Therefore, if Obama was born in Kenya in order to be a U.S. citizen by birth, his mother would have had to been prior to Barackâs birth ââ¦physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteenâ¦â.
Since Obamaâs mother was born November 29, 1942, she would have been 14 on November 29, 1956, and adding the remaining 5 years to that (ââ¦at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteenâ¦â), this time period would have ended on November 29, 1961.
HOWEVER, Obama was born (apparently) on August 4, 1961, which was almost 4 months before the above deadline passed.
Under the U.S. Constitution (Article II, Section 1), it states that âNo person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of Presidentâ¦â.
Based on the above, Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be President of the United States if he was born in Kenya.
As pointed out by others, what has been posted is a "new" copy of Obamaâs âCertification of Live Birthâ printed from archived information taken from original documents, and NOT a âBirth Certificateâ or a âvaultâ copy of it.
Note - Hawaii apparently allowed a citizen of Hawaii to register the live birth of their baby whether or not it was born in Hawaii, another state, or outside the U.S.
If you look at the copy posted at http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html (which tries to prove the authenticity of the laser printed version), save a copy of the picture from the site ( see http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg ), open up the picture and enlarge it, you will see that the Certificate No. has a problem.
The separate picture entitled "Blowup of certificate number" on the factcheck.org site shows a certificate number "151 1961 - 010641.
If you look at the certificate number on the Certificate of Live Birth, the first three digits of the last six (supposedly "010641"), do not matc
Can Emirates recruit foreign candidates and train them to be their pilots?
Johnny G
I am a resident of Kenya and I have a PPL, I was wondering if there is any way i can have Emirates recruit me and train me so that i can fly for them, because i do not come from a well off family and my parents cannot pay for my CPL/IR as at now, Emirates is my dream company,
Is there a chance?
Answer
It's a good question Johnny but I might be giving you a not so good news in this case.
I was involved in the construction of Emirates Aviation College, Emirates Aviation Flight Simulators from CAE and the latest - the Terminal 2 expansion of the Dubai International Airport.
Majority of the Emirates pilots is western, then Local Emirati and a few Asians.
The new pilots of Emirates are already veterans of so many flying hours in their belt and most of the Asst. are the locals who graduated from the Emirates Aviation College and trained further in the west.
Below link, please find the Emirates Group Multi-discipline vacancies and career center that might help you as a first step.
http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/
Good luck !!!
It's a good question Johnny but I might be giving you a not so good news in this case.
I was involved in the construction of Emirates Aviation College, Emirates Aviation Flight Simulators from CAE and the latest - the Terminal 2 expansion of the Dubai International Airport.
Majority of the Emirates pilots is western, then Local Emirati and a few Asians.
The new pilots of Emirates are already veterans of so many flying hours in their belt and most of the Asst. are the locals who graduated from the Emirates Aviation College and trained further in the west.
Below link, please find the Emirates Group Multi-discipline vacancies and career center that might help you as a first step.
http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/
Good luck !!!
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