Dave
that the rapture is going to be in May 21, 2011 and that the earth will be destroyed in October 21, 2011
***extra credit***
refute the belief of it being true if you think it false or if you hold this view as true defend it.
this question comes from seeing this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o206kXo3Dwc
@fireball
i know we believe in the rapture, i am referring to how many believe in those dates being accurate.
LottaLou
actually, you may be wrong there, the bible says there will be a "new earth" (revelation 21) so it appears the current earth will be destroyed (then again i may be wrong and when it say "new earth" it is referring to the earth being "renewed")
Answer
As a Christian, that is too boring.
And I don't believe those dates are accurate. Because it says the earth is going to be destroyed. Jesus Christ hasn't even returned after the Great Tribulation that is yet to happen.
I do believe it is very possible that the Rapture will happen very soon.
The Father even gave me a vision. He first said that I will be seeing His Son, the King, very soon. That I will look at Him & He will look at me... Then the vision that Jesus stood up with His left arm raised up and saying, "Come up hither." reaching up toward His left in the sky... Where the Holy Angels & Saints are.
Then the next Day Franklin Graham preached that Jesus won't be coming back as Savior. He Is coming back as King. He already came back as Savior...
Since then, I have had a vision of Jesus eyes, and they are Golden Brown color with darker brown around the color. Black pupils. And white glimmering. And one could consider the fire in His eyes as the touch of orange / red. (Jesus had dark brown eyes on earth, but raised up lighter colored eyes. His face lighter & brighter.) And to think that when we see Jesus as He Is, we will change in the twinkle of an eye. We will raise up like He raised up, in an everlasting flesh & bone.
The earth isn't going to be destroyed. The earth is forever. It will go through horrible birthing pains, but still will last.
Also the Millennium Reign of Christ is still yet to happen.
Jesus is personally stirring me up to be ready for the 'rapture'. And by Ministers. Just today I read http://JVIM on the rapture, the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Who is in and who is out... Who is in attentance and who isn't. The difference between the Righteousness of Christ that redeems us (we are born of God by), and the 'Righteousness of the Saints' being dressed in white, being plural and so according to our works of obedience...
Please read JVIM Newsletter comparing Christ Righteousness & Righteousness of the Saints.
http://www.jvim.com/
1. click 'email news letter'
2. click 'View' - View Past Issues of the Newsletter
3. click '2009'
4. click 'July, 6'
The difference between 'Christ Righteousness' and the 'Righteousness of the Saints'.
This is new info for me, but I believe necessary in understanding the times we are living in. And how to be dressed in 'white' the 'Righteousness of the Saints'.
And Jack Van Impe's Greek understanding on Righteousness of being plural for meaning the Saints. While Christ Righteousness is singular Righteousness.
This does help us understand bible scripture regarding 'Eternal Life' & our 'rewards'.
And the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
Plus Mark Biltz who has a book of the Holy Feasts and their meaning in God's time schedule. He was interviewed on http://www.sidroth.org . And to compare with the new moons or solar or lunar eclipses, etc. God shows us signs in the heavens of His time schedule. And also the Holy Feasts are signs. And dress rehearsals for the real thing.
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There are plenty of Bible scripture that write that the earth is forever. But there is the end of the age as we know it. And there is the Age of Christ yet to be. And there is the Great White Throne Judgment where the earth & heaven left those standing before God at this event.
But the earth is forever. Just moved around a bit.
As a Christian, that is too boring.
And I don't believe those dates are accurate. Because it says the earth is going to be destroyed. Jesus Christ hasn't even returned after the Great Tribulation that is yet to happen.
I do believe it is very possible that the Rapture will happen very soon.
The Father even gave me a vision. He first said that I will be seeing His Son, the King, very soon. That I will look at Him & He will look at me... Then the vision that Jesus stood up with His left arm raised up and saying, "Come up hither." reaching up toward His left in the sky... Where the Holy Angels & Saints are.
Then the next Day Franklin Graham preached that Jesus won't be coming back as Savior. He Is coming back as King. He already came back as Savior...
Since then, I have had a vision of Jesus eyes, and they are Golden Brown color with darker brown around the color. Black pupils. And white glimmering. And one could consider the fire in His eyes as the touch of orange / red. (Jesus had dark brown eyes on earth, but raised up lighter colored eyes. His face lighter & brighter.) And to think that when we see Jesus as He Is, we will change in the twinkle of an eye. We will raise up like He raised up, in an everlasting flesh & bone.
The earth isn't going to be destroyed. The earth is forever. It will go through horrible birthing pains, but still will last.
Also the Millennium Reign of Christ is still yet to happen.
Jesus is personally stirring me up to be ready for the 'rapture'. And by Ministers. Just today I read http://JVIM on the rapture, the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Who is in and who is out... Who is in attentance and who isn't. The difference between the Righteousness of Christ that redeems us (we are born of God by), and the 'Righteousness of the Saints' being dressed in white, being plural and so according to our works of obedience...
Please read JVIM Newsletter comparing Christ Righteousness & Righteousness of the Saints.
http://www.jvim.com/
1. click 'email news letter'
2. click 'View' - View Past Issues of the Newsletter
3. click '2009'
4. click 'July, 6'
The difference between 'Christ Righteousness' and the 'Righteousness of the Saints'.
This is new info for me, but I believe necessary in understanding the times we are living in. And how to be dressed in 'white' the 'Righteousness of the Saints'.
And Jack Van Impe's Greek understanding on Righteousness of being plural for meaning the Saints. While Christ Righteousness is singular Righteousness.
This does help us understand bible scripture regarding 'Eternal Life' & our 'rewards'.
And the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
Plus Mark Biltz who has a book of the Holy Feasts and their meaning in God's time schedule. He was interviewed on http://www.sidroth.org . And to compare with the new moons or solar or lunar eclipses, etc. God shows us signs in the heavens of His time schedule. And also the Holy Feasts are signs. And dress rehearsals for the real thing.
-------------
There are plenty of Bible scripture that write that the earth is forever. But there is the end of the age as we know it. And there is the Age of Christ yet to be. And there is the Great White Throne Judgment where the earth & heaven left those standing before God at this event.
But the earth is forever. Just moved around a bit.
Libyan Rebels, the Aftermath, what are your thoughts on these serious turn of events?
Q. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/4/jihadists-plot-to-take-over-libya/
"ihadists among the Libyan rebels revealed plans last week on the Internet to subvert the post-Moammar Gadhafi government and create an Islamist state"
http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-rebels-round-black-africans-130723394.html
"Rebel forces and armed civilians are rounding up thousands of black Libyans and migrants from sub-Sahara Africa"
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_LIBYA_FEARFUL_FOREIGNERS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-09-04-17-02-06
"A Ghanaian teacher cowers in his house, certain he will be grabbed at a checkpoint because of his dark skin. Armed rebels detain 19 Ukrainian cooks and oil workers for several days on unsupported claims that they are really snipers for Moammar Gadhafi."
Is this simply chaos cooling off and thus a part of the good transformation which Obama and the west paid and participated in or is this a more of a result of our gullibility and or misprediction? What are your thoughts?
"ihadists among the Libyan rebels revealed plans last week on the Internet to subvert the post-Moammar Gadhafi government and create an Islamist state"
http://news.yahoo.com/libyan-rebels-round-black-africans-130723394.html
"Rebel forces and armed civilians are rounding up thousands of black Libyans and migrants from sub-Sahara Africa"
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_LIBYA_FEARFUL_FOREIGNERS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-09-04-17-02-06
"A Ghanaian teacher cowers in his house, certain he will be grabbed at a checkpoint because of his dark skin. Armed rebels detain 19 Ukrainian cooks and oil workers for several days on unsupported claims that they are really snipers for Moammar Gadhafi."
Is this simply chaos cooling off and thus a part of the good transformation which Obama and the west paid and participated in or is this a more of a result of our gullibility and or misprediction? What are your thoughts?
Answer
It was predictable. Obama is a dreamer who thought it was a popular uprising. Just more incompetence from our Community Organizer In Chief.
What's scary is the types of weapons now available to terrorists. Libya has chemical and biological weapons. They also had the remnants of their nuclear program. That is a very serous concern.
It was predictable. Obama is a dreamer who thought it was a popular uprising. Just more incompetence from our Community Organizer In Chief.
What's scary is the types of weapons now available to terrorists. Libya has chemical and biological weapons. They also had the remnants of their nuclear program. That is a very serous concern.
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